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    OK so I finally got my moose last night. I used a 6,000 pound F-250 with a velocity of about 30 mph. Light wind so no projectile drift at all, 10 degrees out. The impact dropped her in her tracks and I dragged her 30 feet before stopping on the ice. Luckily it was this years calf. Should be some good eating...... for someone else. I had to drag her out of the road and up over the snow bank to make traffic safe. Took out the moose lights, fog lights, grill but nothing serious.

    So my question is: Is a 6,000 pound F-250 adequate for moose? Or should I be moving up to a F-350 for more energy?

    BTW no damage to the Thanksgiving pies!

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    May you out a get a new signature line also: Does this F-250 make my butt look big?

    Good to hear you are OK. Happy Turkey Day.

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    Congratulations, you just killed a calf AND a cow, thereby removing 13.2352646 moose from the future. You should be ashamed of yourself regardless of the caliber of truck you used

    Dave, you are hard on trucks . I'm glad you are o.k. Have a Happy Thanksgiving.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daveinthebush View Post
    So my question is: Is a 6,000 pound F-250 adequate for moose? Or should I be moving up to a F-350 for more energy?
    65,000 ft-lbs of energy may be a bit much ... Doubt you'll get pass through as the caliber used is likely larger than the critter being harvested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daveinthebush View Post
    OK so I finally got my moose last night. I used a 6,000 pound F-250 with a velocity of about 30 mph. Light wind so no projectile drift at all, 10 degrees out. The impact dropped her in her tracks and I dragged her 30 feet before stopping on the ice. Luckily it was this years calf. Should be some good eating...... for someone else. I had to drag her out of the road and up over the snow bank to make traffic safe. Took out the moose lights, fog lights, grill but nothing serious.

    So my question is: Is a 6,000 pound F-250 adequate for moose? Or should I be moving up to a F-350 for more energy?

    BTW no damage to the Thanksgiving pies!
    Glad the pies survived !! You might want to step up to a F-700 if you plan on a steady diet of moose impacts.
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    It isn't the platform but you could step up in projectile weight and energy by switching to a diesel. My F250 is right at 8400lbs with me and a full tank of fuel. No proof of concept on moose but it was devastating at 65MPH vs a seagull!

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    Projectile construction can be improved with a crash guard. Mostly this is to improve the chances of the projectile being reused without reconstruction.
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    Luckily the projectile didn't mushroom to double the original diameter. Good to read that you and the truck are both survived without major damage.

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    I used a ford escort one year, and it was not enough. I was coming home from hockey late, and she was almost across the road. As I tried to sneak behind her(touched the brakes), she dove back in front of me. The car split her legs, rolled her over the top.. broke both the front and back windshields, and she walked away.. as did I. I went back the next day and tracked her over a mile... blood stopped.. hopefully she made it. $500 in new glass later I was as good as new.. no damage at all to the car other than the windshields. I got pretty lucky, missing her legs probably saved me a trip to the ER.

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    My guess is you used a full metal jacket, by some standards, this is good, for little ol calves, but for big tough yukon/alaskan bulls you need something that will expand a bit, perhaps a dodge ram 1500? I hear they expand quite well and you dont even have to worry about the front diff cause it will most likely be shot anyway, but then again, a dodge is kinda like an accellerator from a 30-30, it just has a plastic coating over the bullet, there for it might not be sutable for dropping it on the spot, but it might be better for meat hunting, that is, unless you use a gas engine, cause then it would act like a soft point (the engine being the lead core and the tranny being the chintsy jacket) I'd go with a cummins if you want slow controlled expansion, oh, and in a manual tranny.
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    OK....you killed the moose. The question is, how did your projectile perform? Did the core separate? Did it mushroom adequately? What was the weight retention? Was there a sufficient blood trail so that under less than perfect conditions you would have been able to track the moose down and finish the job? Are you planning on trying out other loads, or are you satisfied with how this one performed? Not trying to rain on your parade here, but you need to think about these things.
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    You reminded us all of what the real old timers already knew. The "camp cook stove" at the right velocity is a reliable killer! Glad you are ok.

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    Quote Originally Posted by walk-in View Post
    OK....you killed the moose. The question is, how did your projectile perform? Did the core separate? Did it mushroom adequately? What was the weight retention? Was there a sufficient blood trail so that under less than perfect conditions you would have been able to track the moose down and finish the job? Are you planning on trying out other loads, or are you satisfied with how this one performed? Not trying to rain on your parade here, but you need to think about these things.
    Yes, and Accuracy!!! thats what matters, it woldn't matter if you hit it with a KW or a VW golf (ok, maybe it would) but accuracy is everything!
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    I was using the higher energy diesel as a load. Also I was not using a soft nose. Instead I used a spire-point, moose light mount light bar that did not fragement at all. She took the full energy from the load. No tracking involved at all, actually had to back off of her she dropped almost at my feet.

    I think the light bar kept the airbags from going off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daveinthebush View Post
    OK so I finally got my moose last night. I used a 6,000 pound F-250 with a velocity of about 30 mph. Light wind so no projectile drift at all, 10 degrees out. The impact dropped her in her tracks and I dragged her 30 feet before stopping on the ice. Luckily it was this years calf. Should be some good eating...... for someone else. I had to drag her out of the road and up over the snow bank to make traffic safe. Took out the moose lights, fog lights, grill but nothing serious.

    So my question is: Is a 6,000 pound F-250 adequate for moose? Or should I be moving up to a F-350 for more energy?

    BTW no damage to the Thanksgiving pies!
    Its not the caliber!!!!! Placement Placement Placement!!!!!!


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    I think the caliber was good, but when you start targeting the larger animals, just make sure to increase the velocity a bit. Also, might want to upgrade from a flat nozed round to one with a bit more of a point. Try adding a winch to the front to help with penetration.

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    I thought hunting moose using lights was illegal? Hmmm?
    Glad all is well for sure!
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    You could just get another F-250 and add a snowplow to reduce the frontal damage.
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    Glad to hear you are Okay, I would say plenty adequate, here is an example of inadequate, notice the separation. This one even loaded itself.

    Not sure if that is moose poop on the drivers seat, or drivers poop, maybe some of both.



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    Quote Originally Posted by stid2677 View Post
    Glad to hear you are Okay, I would say plenty adequate, here is an example of inadequate, notice the separation. This one even loaded itself.Not sure if that is moose poop on the drivers seat, or drivers poop, maybe some of both.
    This one should almost go in an "is it legal" thread. A tough angle with the hind hooves under the nose and the front hooves up around the ears. Most people would want to skin in before loading, but hey, to each their own....

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