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    hey guys,,,,i have all the electroncs removed from the boat for winter, except for the garmin radio in the dash?....temps here get can get down to the -40 F range so i think that would be BADDDD for the liquid cystals in the garmin!!......it is wired in to the dash, but i should be able to pull it out if there is a danger if it freezes hard!............what do you guys do with your electonics in winter?........i would think you temps dont get that low near the alsaka coast--or do they????....as always thanks larry

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    Good question. I just picked up a new to me boat and it has a brand new 740S. I was wondering the same thing.

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    In storage it should be fine , most LCD operate from about -22F to a little over 100*F
    Can you put a small heater in your cabin ?

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    My Garmin chart plotter spent the winter in the boat last year and survived. I am going to pull it out this year but I have not done it yet. They will be fine as long as you don't turn them on. At work here in Prudhoe Bay I have had computer monitors in boxes sit for weeks at -30 with no ill effect. Just warm them up before you turn them on.
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    With the money I have invested in my boats, I always pull them out. I don't have any trouble Breaking Out Another Thousand for the stuff I really can't control, so it just makes mental sense to me.
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    My Icom VHF stays in my boat stored in a portable garage for the winters and has not had any issues as all.
    My fishfider comes indors because it's easily removable while the VHF is flush mounted in the dash.
    I wouldn't worry about it. Just leave it in the boat. IMHO

    PS my boat has seen winter temps down to almost -70F

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    Radio and chartplotter stay in the boat while in storage. Never had a problem with them being negatively affected by the cold.

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    Thumbs up it's fine...

    I pull out what isn't hard wired, even take the face plate off the stereo, the radio is not removable, it stays. I believe heat is what really kills electronics, never heard of cold being the issue. Obviously don't turn it on, but your battery is probably removed anyway right.

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    I had a early 80's loran that the screen showed separation cracks when I left it on the boat in Whittier the first winter I had it. I took it off the boat and the screen healed up OK when it warmed up but had me worried it would be permanent. I think the newer LCD displays are better. My Garmin GPSMap is flush mounted and left onboard with no problems, but it's in Seward, not the interior.

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    -70 f??...holy crap batman!!.....that means i have 30 degreees of safety factor!! thanks for all the replies!....i sent garmin an email to get their offical word on the matter, it prob says in the manual, will check that when i go visit "the pez"!....will post what garmin says!!.........everything else is pulled out of the boat except the vhf, as it is flush mounted...sent a word to grant at wooldridge to see if it is easy to pull out..but at this point i will leave it in....-minus 70???...***??

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    It'll be interesting what they say since Garmin panels in aircraft sit out to well below -40F in many regions of Alaska.

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    It will be fine. Mine sat in the boat all of last winter (-40 temps). As others have stated, as long as you dont turn it on while its frozen you will be ok.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robbentler View Post
    Good question. I just picked up a new to me boat and it has a brand new 740S. I was wondering the same thing.
    I left all my electronics in the boat including my 740S. You guys got me all worried now.
    I take them out every other year BTW





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    Single digits and teen temps didn't bother my garmin on deck.
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    I take mine out just as a precaution. A few years ago I called the manufacturer of one of my instruments that has LCD (forgot which manufacturer) and they suggested I take their instrument out of the boat for the winter. A plus to removing everything is that during the winter I go through and clean things up. I also plug in (using the provided adapter) my Garmin chartplotter while I'm nice and warm in my house and delete any old waypoints that I no longer need.

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    hi again!....ok, after a few emails back and forth with garmin, the official word is..they have no knowledge of electonics failing at low temps(below -10 c) when the unit was left OFF and claiming warranty!......so, i am leaving the VHF in the boat!............here is the email exchange for those that want to read through it?...start from the bottom then read up............thanks again for all the good advice!.larry

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    Reply |Larry
    show details 10:09 AM (2 minutes ago)
    Reply |Product.Support@garmin.com product.support@garmin.com to me
    show details Dec 4 (4 days ago)

    Dear Larry
    Thank you for contacting Garmin International. I'm not aware of a
    warranty claim for a device ruined by low temperature (device powered
    off). I checked with my supervisor. He also is not aware of any
    situations or that that information is available. I'm sorry I couldn't
    help you any further with this one.

    With Best Regards,
    Nicholas P
    Product Support Specialist
    Marine/ Outdoor Team
    Garmin International
    913-397-8200
    800-800-1020
    913-440-8280 (fax) Att: Nicholas P, Associate #6082
    www.garmin.com
    Additional solutions may be found at
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    Original Message Follows: ------------------------
    thanks,,,,so, has anyone ever claimed a warranty from a unit that was
    ruined by low temp, when the unit was off?,,,,,,where would i find out
    this info?.....thanks larry

    On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 5:25 PM, Product.Support@garmin.com
    <product.support@garmin.com> wrote:
    Dear Larry
    Thank you for contacting Garmin International. Yes, that is the
    temperature for when the unit is on. I do not have any information
    associated with the temperature when unit is not operating.

    With Best Regards,
    Nicholas P
    Product Support Specialist
    Marine/ Outdoor Team
    Garmin International
    913-397-8200
    800-800-1020
    913-440-8280 (fax) Att: Nicholas P, Associate #6082
    www.garmin.com
    Additional solutions may be found at
    http://www.garmin.com/garmin/cms/sit.../searchsupport


    Original Message Follows: ------------------------
    thanks nicholas, but , is that temp range for a unit that is
    ON?..(-10-50c)...........i would like to know how low a temp you can
    go with the unit OFF!...........i can imagine you ship units all over
    the world in frozen trucks/planes?......thanks larry

    On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 7:36 PM, Product.Support@garmin.com
    <product.support@garmin.com> wrote:
    Dear Larry
    Thank you for contacting Garmin International. I'll be happy to help
    you. Wow, that's cold!
    The weather specifications are included on page 46 of the owner's
    manual as well as the Specifications sub-tab.
    http://static.garmincdn.com/pumac/3227_OwnersManual.pdf
    https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?cID=250&pID=28721

    With Best Regards,
    Nicholas P
    Product Support Specialist
    Marine/ Outdoor Team
    Garmin International
    913-397-8200
    800-800-1020
    913-440-8280 (fax) Att: Nicholas P, Associate #6082
    www.garmin.com
    Additional solutions may be found at
    http://www.garmin.com/garmin/cms/sit.../searchsupport


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    Subject: cold weather and freezing?
    Message: what is the lowest temp that will ruin the unit?.....i have
    the vhf in the boat and the temps can get down to -45c at times....i
    will Not be using the unit or turning it on! thanks larry

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    The radio will be fine. My work truck in Prudhoe Bay, Ak has a couple of radio's, a driving monitoring system (GPS, Satellite Comms and LCD Screen) as well as a cell phone. All have been frozen to -50 F before and turned on in -20F to -30 F with no ill effects.

    I pulled my Chart plotter out of the boat before I put it in storage more so I don't have to worry about someone stealing it than the effects of the cold. I left the VHF and AM/FM/CD installed as they are not as easy to remove.
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