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    Question overkill?

    This word intrigues me...it's been tossed out there to make a point...but I'm not exactly sure what that point is. I've always thought dead is dead...I didn't realize that there must be degrees of dead. Kinda dead, sorta dead, half-azzed dead, stone-cold dead, graveyard dead, dead as a door nail (whatever the heck that means), brain dead(can animals be hopheads?), and dead-to-rights. What's your...dead take on it?

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    Default No overkill

    With grizz and brown bears there is no such thing as over kill.

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    Default Dead

    All I want is FREZZER DEAD!

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    I always believe there is no such thing as overkill but there is such a thing as not dead enough.

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    Maydog;

    Here's what I meen by over kill. My little brother got a 45-70 to come up here and hunt bear with. Well his job layed him off and his wife got pregnant, so he never made it. He had to sell his deer rifle to get the 45-70, so for several years he had no other gun to hunt white tails with. The 45-70 will rip a white tail dang near in half and he used to loose alot of meat with it. Thats what I meen by overkill. Otherwise I agree daed is dead.

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    45-70 with the right bullet will do less meat damage than a 270 winchester shooting that screaming 130 grain bullet.

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    Overkill- Where you find Bears.

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    Default What part of "overkill" don't you understand?

    Overkill means more killing power than is needed,

    OR anything more powerful than a 7mm Mag. loaded with 160 grain Noslers.

    I hope that's clear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlleninAlaska View Post
    45-70 with the right bullet will do less meat damage than a 270 winchester shooting that screaming 130 grain bullet.
    About five years ago I was hunting on Kodiak with a friend .
    He used a 270 not sure what kind of bullet but theexit hole was about the size of my fist .
    I was using my 45-70 Guide model with 525 Grain WFNGC hard cast which put a perfect half inch hole in and a half inch hole coming out .
    Just depends on the bullet you use !!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bear Buster View Post
    All I want is FREZZER DEAD!


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    Guess my bro used the wrong bullet then because he had exit holes the size of your head.

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    You can never have too much.

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    overkill -- using a 50 BMG for squirrels

    Yes it can be done, dead is dead, but I think thats OVERKILL

    I think this is what your referring to (my post on another thread).

    45-70 for maryland whitetails. It will kill them, dead is dead, but, (IMO) it's on the big side for what is "needed". Would I use one for whitetails....in a heart beat if it's the one rifle I had. But if I was wanting a whitetail round... I would go with a 30-30 over a 45-70 anyday, and a 30-06 on top of those.
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    Theres nothing wrong with the BMG for squirrels. Just hit them in the head

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    I agree,,,,,, but it's just a little overkill don't you think.....
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    i shoot everythng with my .416, deer i have to shoot twice, they don't flinch when you hit them, only way you know you hit them is by the sound. little holes in and out.

    over kill is a term guys with little guns made up to feel better in front of their buddies with big guns. kinda like a jacked up truck or suv that'll never see more than 3 inches of mud....
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    Default overkill

    Besides caliber of gun, the number of shots or type of ammo might also be considered when thinking about overkill.

    Four guys pouring bullets into a deer that's already on the ground kicking might be considered overkill, but the same four guys pouring bullets into a charging brownie, might be considered reasonable.

    Using a machine gun or morter in war time might be reasonable, but it would surly be overkill in a hunting situation.

    I'd say a good definition of overkill would be using something to kill that is way more than you need for the job at hand. But, I'd also say that definition could have a reasonably large sliding scale depending on where you're hunting and what else might be in the area. I'd say use what makes you feel comfortable, but you can stop shooting that deer now....those are just the dying quivers.

    Shooting, hanging, and burning a guy might be overkill too. Remember Lonesome Dove? But shooting, hanging, then burning (cooking) a deer might be considered reasonable and completely normal.

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    Dead is Dead.

    I go heavy bullet for caliber and have for years on most everything I hunt. I do not like chasing wounded critters and I will do all I can to try and make them drop where hit. Does not always work but hitting an animal heavy and hard certainly helps as I have not had to look anymore than 50yds or so for anything I have shot over the past 10 years.


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    What ever overkill is it would be far desirable to the alternative - "underkill"

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    Agreed Raven..........

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