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    just bought a benelli r-1 338wm with a leupold VX III 2.5x8 B&C recticle. went to sight it in and all was going well until i ran out of verticle adjustment and couldn't raise it anymore tried some different ammo and it improved slightly is this a gunsmith error and what can be done to fix this i also noticed that while the base is leupold it is for a browning BAR model or ref# 49985 HELP!

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    From what I can find you have the right base on there.

    http://www.arcadian-sales.com/Mercha...roduct_Count=4

    I would call Leupold and see if the scope has the full range of adjustment. As you probably know they have a great warranty whether you bought new or used.

    Good luck

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    If you center the reticle, where does the bullet hit in relation to point of aim?

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    i'm not sure where it hits when centered but it was supposed to be bore sited and was very low a little to the right

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    somebody else on the forum had the same issue as you with a Leupold scope. You might try contacting that particular forum member to find out what he did. I think he sent the scope back.

    Here's the thread:

    http://forums.outdoorsdirectory.com/...hlight=leupold

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    In fact, here's a third forum member with the same exact issue that you describe. It's pretty sad that this seems to be quite a common issue and obviously not the rifle's fault. But the Leupold purists will keep touting the Leupolds. I don't care how great the customer service is, I don't buy scopes to only have them fail in the field. Haven't had a single issue with any of my Burris scopes, figured I'd fit that one in there for the appropriate forum members. I'd recommend ditching that scope or put it on a target rifle shooting rimfire bullets and go get a Burris.

    http://forums.outdoorsdirectory.com/showthread.php/104895-New-Leupold-VXIII-elevation-adjustment-bottomed-out?highlight=leupold


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    Ohh my,

    here's a fourth forum member with adjustment issues with a leupold:


    http://forums.outdoorsdirectory.com/...hlight=leupold

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    thanx for the link it was helpful

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    fifth member with leupold adjustment problems and everybody "guessed" it was the mounts or the rifle's fault. Sayak was the only one with enough common sense to recommend trying another scope:

    http://forums.outdoorsdirectory.com/...hlight=leupold

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    Could not agree with you more. Leupold scopes are total crap. The twelve I have that operate flawlessly are flukes.

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    I have a lot of experience with the R-1. The factory rail is thicker on one end. You need the factory rail, it is the only one I could ever get to work.
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    You bought rifle with scope mounted and was told it's bore sighted. It's my guess it was sold because it had problems the owner didn't understand. It is probably fixable with some patience and correct mounts. Turnaround with Leupold is slow now but you could send it to them since hunting season is over. They'll check it out and fix any problems it may have.

    I love scope problems....I love to hear about them and I love to fix 'em.

    I've mounted or remounted hundreds of Leupold scopes. I don't think they are the best scope on the planet but I do think they are very good and worth the money and of course we know about their warranty. All of them are designed to have enough Elevation and Windage adjustments to sight in with any correctly built rifle and correct mount. That said sometimes tolerances stack in the wrong direction and make it impossible to sight in a particular scope/rifle/mount combination.

    I hate bore sighter devices. I find them useless and those bore probes with hardened steel springs can damage the bore. Lasers are fun but not needed.

    I am not familiar with the R-1 but know that Stid2677 is and has successfully mounted scopes on his.

    I have found that using brand X mounts with brand Y scope may not work but X and X or Y and Y work well.
    Also a few rifle actions may need shimming with some bases but not with others.

    I sold and mounted 14 Leupold scopes this fall. All sighted in perfectly with no problems discovered with mounts, rifles or scopes.
    Rifles ranged form an ancient Remington 788 carbine to a new Sako 85.
    I sold and mounted about 20 of either Burris, Nikon, Bushnell or Kahles. I had one bad from the factory Burris (turrets wouldn't move at all) and problems with some old existent mounts on rifles that were stuck or loose and had to be changed out but all other scopes mounted and sighted in easily.

    Some folks hate Leupold scopes some folks love them, I don't meet many folks in between.

    Personally I think the very best hunting scope available is the Kahles and I really like their TDS reticle. To each his own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stid2677 View Post
    I have a lot of experience with the R-1. The factory rail is thicker on one end. You need the factory rail, it is the only one I could ever get to work.
    Wow...someone speaking from experience instead of shooting from the hip. We were all certain it was the sub-standard Leupold scope that was causing the problem. Thanks for setting us straight!

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    First I would suggest doing the block test on your scope. If you find it does ajust the cross hair correctly, then would sugget you try a pair of Burris Pos Align rings. They come with up to three sets of inserts for the rings. Been awhile since I used them, but think you can get 18 inches of travel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edd View Post
    First I would suggest doing the block test on your scope. If you find it does ajust the cross hair correctly, then would sugget you try a pair of Burris Pos Align rings. They come with up to three sets of inserts for the rings. Been awhile since I used them, but think you can get 18 inches of travel.
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    Yes I have seen alot more mass produced rifles that have bridge alignment issues causing sight in problems then I have scope that were broke or defective. Seems some of the worst offenders are when a guy wants to put high end euro optics on Winchester classics made at the end of production. Seems the tooling at New Haven should have been retired earlier than it was. And anyone who wants to tell me that a Swaro or Zeiss is a POS because it won't sight in on a mismachined receiver can come right into the shop and tell me face to face. I'd rather it be done that way so we can all get the full effect when I point and laugh in their face. I may even go into convulsions if the Blurris suggestion is thrown in there.

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    Amazing things can be done with a few thin pieces of plastic used as shims, and their really easy to come by. Just use the thin plastic from blister packs, I bet your rings came with one. Lots of guns need shimmed, has no reflection on the leupold at all.

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    both are brand new and this is my third VXIII with bc and loved the first two which is why i buoght the third might have considered your reccomenations but it's too late niow

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    when i picked up the rifle they also gave me what must have been the factory rail i'll take a clser look at it and see if it might be the answer i don't think it's the scope it's brand new and seemed to be working properly until it became maxed out

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