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    Default Grizzly may not have killed the guy in Montana

    According to this article, the grizzly victim in Montana died not from the bear but from a gunshot.

    http://www.ajc.com/news/nation-world/victim-in-mont-grizzly-1187762.html
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    Anyone remember, Craig Sharp's Brown Bear encounter, and what a .340 Wby. can do to your leg.......? And where is Craig Sharp and Miss Alaska now.......?

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    Happens more than people think.Have a friend that was shot in the bottom of his foot and came out by his knee being saved and lived to tell the story.
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    IMHO the young man in this story made two tragic mistakes that led to the death of his partner. First he misidentified a Grizzly for a Black bear, this mistake directly caused the mauling. He then shot his partner in the heat of the attack. This is a very sobering reminder of how important it is to know and trust those you take to the field with. I have followed a wounded bear into the Alders with another hunter and we come very close to having the same outcome.


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    I cannot help but think how much more intense the effects of that event will be on those involved.

    I have gone over scenarios such as that in my mind, what the chances are of killing or wounding the mauling victim in an attempt to save them ? Each time I come to the conclusion that the chances are high that the person will be hit by a bullet if care is not taken when pulling the trigger... things happen so quickly, so violently, how each person responds in a life and death struggle is very personal and can only be answered by those having the experience. Some panic and all is lost unless luck shines in their favor, some make quick sound decisions and act correctly or favorably.

    I have been in life and limb threating situations and have always done the right thing at the right time. I hope I continue to act in such a manner for any future events that may occur, hopefully there will be no future events to put it to the test.

    The best course of action I arrived at (in theory) to stop a bear mauling by firearm as the "non-victim", conditions allowing; get close, get low, do ones best to shoot the spine at the front shoulders. The head of the bear is too close to the person one is trying to save. Shooting form a high angle increases the chance of hitting the maul victim.
    Of course this is just my theory. I hope to never prove or disprove the effectiveness of it.

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    I think the partner needs to maintain complete composure (even though that sounds impossible). My goodness. Shoot any part of the bear without shooting your buddy. I showed my wife this story; I told her 'Please don't shoot me if I'm being mauled by a bear'. This may be a case where pepper spray might be the safest course ... although I'm mostly a proponent of carrying a side-arm when in bear country on fishing trips.

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    Remember the Jerry Clower routine, when Coon hunten and climbing the tree after the coon John Ubanks "a great American" finds out that it is a Wild Cat and not a Coon. "shoot in amoungst us, one of us has got to have relief" yelled John.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Truenorthed View Post
    I think the partner needs to maintain complete composure (even though that sounds impossible). My goodness. Shoot any part of the bear without shooting your buddy. I showed my wife this story; I told her 'Please don't shoot me if I'm being mauled by a bear'. This may be a case where pepper spray might be the safest course ... although I'm mostly a proponent of carrying a side-arm when in bear country on fishing trips.
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    I have to disagree with ya on the pepper spray in such close quarters. That could very well blind the hunter and the bear.

    Controlled fire from a well aimed firearm for me in this case.

    Having been in a very similar situation before, I now choose to go in alone after a wounded bear. But, I also choose to get close and pass on iffy shots to prevent this very thing.
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    Last I heard Craig and his wife were up at Ft. Greeley, with Craig running the firing range or doing some sort of firearms training over sight. For those that are wondering, the bullet that hit Craig's foot and traveled up his leg was a Winchester Silvertip as I recall. After I don't know how many surgeries, the word is he finally had a BK amputation, thereby solving many of his medical problems/complications.
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    ANSWER TO POST #2
    My first day of a permit on the Karluk river. My partner and I are heading up river and I see movement . With the binos I recognize it as a man in a raft. a fellow by the name Gary Grinde says my partner has been mauled. Can I find help going down the river? Too far, let's go to Larsen Bay I say.
    Fortunately a boat was there that took him to the village. Some time later a copper flew over.
    Yes, it was a 340 WTB. First shot at the sleeping bear rolled him 4 legs up. An insurance shot followed. They followed the blood trail as it went down the snowslide. THEN, the blood was seen on fairly flat ground. Shucks, this Bear is alive and it's late let's mark it and come back tommorrow. Gary turns to hang a red daypack, hears a muffled sound and turns to see the Bear shaking Craig like a dog with a shoe in it's mouth. This was a BIG Bear.
    Gary emptied his Winchester 358 at close range and now with 7 bullets in him the Bear run away.
    The day after Creig was airlifted Gary went back by foatplane (this was at Karluk Lake ) and found and skinned the Bear.
    The mount is in the Sears Mall in Anchorage. 10'4" if I remember right.
    What a way to start our Bear hunt. I got a Boar at 10PM on the 15th day. never give up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roland on the River View Post
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    My first day of a permit on the Karluk river. My partner and I are heading up river and I see movement . With the binos I recognize it as a man in a raft. a fellow by the name Gary Grinde says my partner has been mauled. Can I find help going down the river? Too far, let's go to Larsen Bay I say.
    Fortunately a boat was there that took him to the village. Some time later a copper flew over.
    Yes, it was a 340 WTB. First shot at the sleeping bear rolled him 4 legs up. An insurance shot followed. They followed the blood trail as it went down the snowslide. THEN, the blood was seen on fairly flat ground. Shucks, this Bear is alive and it's late let's mark it and come back tommorrow. Gary turns to hang a red daypack, hears a muffled sound and turns to see the Bear shaking Craig like a dog with a shoe in it's mouth. This was a BIG Bear.
    Gary emptied his Winchester 358 at close range and now with 7 bullets in him the Bear run away.
    The day after Creig was airlifted Gary went back by foatplane (this was at Karluk Lake ) and found and skinned the Bear.
    The mount is in the Sears Mall in Anchorage. 10'4" if I remember right.
    What a way to start our Bear hunt. I got a Boar at 10PM on the 15th day. never give up.
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