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    I will be up the last week of August and was wondering if anyone might be willing to share any info about where to fish for these species. I will be driving the Parks up to Fairbanks then down to Valdez and ferrying back over to Anchorage at th end of the week. I have fished these places before but since I fish alone and have never carried a gun or even spray I never have fished much more than the road crossings at Willow, Montana, etc.etc. I was wondering if you just really have to get back off the hwy or if there are streams further up toward Denali where fishing near the hwy is better. Farthest north stream I have hit is Byers Creek. While I have caught my share of salmon I am particularly interested in the above species as well as grayling (which I know where to go for). I am not meat fishing and have never killed a fish in Ak in several trips. I have never fished with a guide becasue I have to work during the day and only fish evenings. I have done well in stillwater up in the MatSu but havent hooked up on much in the rivers and creeks. Any help would be awesome!

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    Every one of those streams going up the parks have the fish your looking for. Will they be right under the road bridge? Most likely not.
    Find the salmon and fish behind them. Have fun It's a great time of the year to be here.

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    Must have book with over 100 maps. This book doesn't tell you how to fish, it tells you where to fish.


    The two loudest sounds known to man: a gun that goes bang when it is supposed to go click and a gun that goes click when it is supposed to go bang.

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    Between Here and Cantwell: Little Su, Willow, Little Willow, Sheep, Kashwitna, Goose, Montana, Sunrise, Rabideux, Byers, Troublesome, Antimony, Honolulu, East Fork Chulitna, Birch.

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    Thanks for the input guys. I did purchase that book but the version I got from a local fly shop is 2003. I wasnt sure if that info was still good. Guess I will have to get off the hwy a bit to find them. Also, I haven't really fished beads much up there. Mostly bigger stuff. Should I stick to beads if I am targeting the bows and dollies?

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    Book from 2003??

    Doubt the rivers have moved much since then


    Use that book like a map.




    As for beads or flies, I wouldn't limit myself if I were you. Consider a two pronged attack and be flexible. Some great info on the site below. Specifically, articles about bead fishing. Best place to buy flies from as well.



    From the good folks at Alaska Fly Fishing Goods


    Bead fishing articles...


    http://www.alaskaflyfishinggoods.com...ked-truth.html


    http://www.alaskaflyfishinggoods.com...ext-level.html




    Fall rainbow article...

    http://www.alaskaflyfishinggoods.com...-rainbows.html



    Dolly article...

    http://www.alaskaflyfishinggoods.com...ove-story.html



    Upper Kenai article...

    http://www.alaskaflyfishinggoods.com...kenai-101.html
    The two loudest sounds known to man: a gun that goes bang when it is supposed to go click and a gun that goes click when it is supposed to go bang.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danattherock View Post
    Book from 2003??

    Doubt the rivers have moved much since then


    Use that book like a map.




    As for beads or flies, I wouldn't limit myself if I were you. Consider a two pronged attack and be flexible. Some great info on the site below. Specifically, articles about bead fishing. Best place to buy flies from as well.



    From the good folks at Alaska Fly Fishing Goods


    Bead fishing articles...


    http://www.alaskaflyfishinggoods.com...ked-truth.html


    http://www.alaskaflyfishinggoods.com...ext-level.html




    Fall rainbow article...

    http://www.alaskaflyfishinggoods.com...-rainbows.html



    Dolly article...

    http://www.alaskaflyfishinggoods.com...ove-story.html



    Upper Kenai article...

    http://www.alaskaflyfishinggoods.com...kenai-101.html
    Thanks for the help!
    I see you are in NC. Spent many great days backpacking the trails in your state back when I lived in Florida. Couldn't stand it down there in FL and NC was the closest mountains I could drive to so I was up there quite a bit in SMNP and the Pisgah Forest out of Brevard.
    Thanks again!

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    Yep, the Smokies is some pretty country man. We spend a lot of time out there. Heading down to Nantahala to do some rafting and fly fishing next week. Trying to escape the 100 deg heat here in south central NC. Can't wait to get on the Kenai in a few weeks. Good luck with your trip man.


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    I especially liked hiking in the Smokies in the fall. Did a few hundred miles up there on the trails and I will have to say they are harder than the trails in the West. They don't build switchbacks out there they just go straight up and over balds etc. got a federal citation for fishing way up on a little mountain stream near Mt. Sterling with a stick , some mono and a fly. No license, wasnt planning to fish but always keep flies and line in my emergency stuff and couldnt resist....I deserved it.
    On another note. Do you know if you can drive up to the mouth of Caswell, Montana or Willow or do you have to hike in?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gorgefly View Post
    I especially liked hiking in the Smokies in the fall. Did a few hundred miles up there on the trails and I will have to say they are harder than the trails in the West. They don't build switchbacks out there they just go straight up and over balds etc. got a federal citation for fishing way up on a little mountain stream near Mt. Sterling with a stick , some mono and a fly. No license, wasnt planning to fish but always keep flies and line in my emergency stuff and couldnt resist....I deserved it.
    On another note. Do you know if you can drive up to the mouth of Caswell, Montana or Willow or do you have to hike in?
    You can drive to the mouth of Willow. Montana is about a 2 minute walk.

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    Thanks guys for all your help. I think I might try Caswell as well. SOunds like from what I've read you might be able to drive up close to the mouth there.
    If any of you guys ever need any info on SW Washington or Oregon hit me up!

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    Where's Antimony Creek? Don't think I have seen any info on that one. Georgefly, ad the book Highway Angler to your list. Its great for quick checks on a bunch of waters in the area you're interested in. Byers and East Fork Chulitna are quickly becoming my favorite northern streams. Few people and nice fish!

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    Don't know where Antimony is? I fished Byers the same week last year and did well for salmon (all pinks and chum no silvers)
    I don't know if there are trout and dollies there or not. I would assume so. I read in the flyfishers guide that Byers is really thick with bears at this time of year and it is not recommended to fish it alone. I didn't see any but then again I wasn't far off the parks either.
    Never fished the Chultina though.

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    No clue to Antimony? Any one?

    Nice rainbows in Byers and East Fork. Caught some chunky grayling too. Honolulu and Troublesome is worth a shot. Don't be afraid to do some hiking around. Have fun!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kimjn View Post
    No clue to Antimony? Any one?
    Between Honolulu and highway crossing of E. fork Chulitna.

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