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    I mainly hunt moose but i also do hunt samller game with my 338 win mag but i dont now what weight to use. From what ive read the way the tsx and ttsx work is the faster the better so witch one would be optimal 185 gr 210 or 225?
    and also the difference in recoil is it noticeble

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    Quote Originally Posted by luisss View Post
    I mainly hunt moose but i also do hunt samller game with my 338 win mag but i dont now what weight to use. From what ive read the way the tsx and ttsx work is the faster the better so witch one would be optimal 185 gr 210 or 225?
    and also the difference in recoil is it noticeble
    The picture is a 185g TSX that I handloaded in my .338 and killed a blackbear with a couple of weeks ago. Worked just fine and is traveling over 3000fps at the muzzle. I would not hesitate to shoot a moose with them. But, I have also started working up some 225 grain TSX just for moose hunting. I think if you are looking for only one of the three options to settle on, I would shoot all three and use the one that shoots the best in your rifle then stick with it. They will all do their job if you do yours with shot placement.DSCN0563.jpg

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    Buddy of mine uses the 210Ttsx in his 338 Win and loves them. He has an older Ruger 77 with a 22" bbl and is only able to get around 2750fps with any semblance of accuracy but last years moose didn't seem to mind the lack of raw magnum speed. Both slug passed through, showing expansion and the bull went straight down after the second one in the pump station. If it was my rifle I would use the 225s just because I like bullet weight but with a Barnes it doesn't really make much difference, they usually weigh the same on the exit as they did at the muzzle.

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    I'd go with the 225s. I used them in Africa in 2009, in my 338/06.. I'm going to try them in the 340 I just got. From what I've seen, the bullet NEED to be pushed a little faster, to work best.. I was pushing them 2500 fps in the 338/06, and they went all the way through, etc., but didn't seem to impart much "shock" to the bigger stuff.. I took 18 animals, and the ones shot with the 280 and 140gr ttsxs, went down a lot faster, and the 280 bullets going 400 fps faster.. I plan on using at least the 225s in the 340 and probably 250s or heavier..

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    dose the 185 gr ttsx got what it takes to best both shoulders of a moose?

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    if you plan on shooting a 185 grain bullet you might as well go with a 30-06. I really think that the best bullet for the 338WM is the 225 TSX or the TTSX. I shot 210 our of my 338-06 and it works great, but if I had more powder like the 338WM does I would shot the 225 or maybe even the 250. They would hit like a freight train.

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    my "vote" goes with 225's too

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    IMO, lighter is better with the TSX. I'd have no qualms about using a 185 or 210 in a 338 WM. I've even used the 160 TTSX without concern for terminal performance. I'll readily exchange some bullet mass for more velocity with the TSX. Obviously YMMV, but using traditional wisdom for a nontraditional bullet makes no sense to me.
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    The 225 gr going 2800 - 2900 out of the 338 WM is a Whole Lotta Luvin......
    If you're shooting 338, why bother with smaller bullets? The difference between the 225 and 210 is not going to be noticed by the animal, or by your shoulder. Only makes a difference on paper......
    Now if you drop down to 180 you get great velocities for lighter game, but you might as well be shooting 30 cal at that point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StanB View Post
    The 225 gr going 2800 - 2900 out of the 338 WM is a Whole Lotta Luvin......
    If you're shooting 338, why bother with smaller bullets? The difference between the 225 and 210 is not going to be noticed by the animal, or by your shoulder. Only makes a difference on paper......
    Now if you drop down to 180 you get great velocities for lighter game, but you might as well be shooting 30 cal at that point.
    Yeah, use the 225gr bullet and watch it zip right on through at times without opening up and you can track and hunt for while looking for your game. With the TTSX or TSX use a lighter for caliber bullet for better terminal results. Of course you could use heavier ones and experience from time to time and more often than you would like, just what I just mentioned above. You know their moto "Performance or Deformance" They are right sometimes it does not deform at all.
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    I agree that the 225gr is the best option--it is fast enough out of a .338 WM and should carry well at distance.

    Quote Originally Posted by ghost View Post
    I'd go with the 225s. I used them in Africa in 2009, in my 338/06.. I'm going to try them in the 340 I just got. From what I've seen, the bullet NEED to be pushed a little faster, to work best.. I was pushing them 2500 fps in the 338/06, and they went all the way through, etc., but didn't seem to impart much "shock" to the bigger stuff.. I took 18 animals, and the ones shot with the 280 and 140gr ttsxs, went down a lot faster, and the 280 bullets going 400 fps faster.. I plan on using at least the 225s in the 340 and probably 250s or heavier..
    ghost, if you are interested in factory loads for the .340, I get an average of 3,163 fps out of the Cor-Bon factory-loaded 225 TTSXs out my .340 Wby Accumark with its 26" barrel--according to what my ProChrono says: a high of 3,182 fps and a low of 3,149 fps. That is higher than CB's published 3,100 fps muzzle velocity, but consistent with what two other people have told me. If the published 0.514 B.C. for the 225gr TTSX is correct, that means it could do something like this:

    340 WEATHERBY Ė COR-BON 225 GRAIN BARNES TTSX Ė BC-0.514 (270-yd zero)
    Rng / Vel. / Impact / KE / 10mph Drift
    000 / 3160 / -1.75 / 4989 / 0.00
    050 / 3057 / 0.79 / 4669 / 0.57
    100 / 2962 / 2.39 / 4383 / 0.97
    150 / 2869 / 3.00 / 4113 / 1.65
    200 / 2778 / 2.55 / 3856 / 2.61
    250 / 2688 / 0.97 / 3610 / 3.88
    300 / 2601 / -1.82 / 3380 / 5.45
    350 / 2515 / -5.9 / 3160 / 7.35
    400 / 2432 / -11.36 / 2955 / 9.6
    450 / 2350 / -18.29 / 2759 / 12.2
    500 / 2270 / -26.8 / 2575 / 15.17

    Pretty wicked IMO. I haven't shot anything alive with it yet, but it's going deer/black bear hunting with me later this year.

    It shoots around 1-inch groups at 100yds when I do my part.

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    I use the 210 grain TTSX in my 338 RUM. It shoots great and is very accurate. I shoot a griz this year and the bullet went the lenght of the bear. I would shoot all alaska game with a 210 grain barnes without a second thought. They work great and hold together well.

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    I use the 210 grain TTSX in my 338 RUM. It shoots great and is very accurate. I shoot a griz this year and the bullet went the lenght of the bear. I would shoot all alaska game with a 210 grain barnes without a second thought. They work great and hold together well.
    I bet that was a hammer coming out of the 338 Rum. How big was the bear and do you have a picture of him so we can get a visual idea of his size?
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    Donít know if you saw my post this Spring of the buffalo I took with a 225 TTSX. So, Iíll post a quick response.

    Shot was 100 yards, and buff est. weight was 2k. Bullet centered a rib going in and going out, and it came to rest under the hide. The hide was a lot tougher and thicker than Iíve ever experienced. The 225 shoots very well out of my rifle, and tested accuracy is such that Iím confident out to 500 yards. However (this is where I mostly agree with 1Cor) I will likely test the 210 and 185 because the TTSXís tough construction can handle the higher speeds at close range and theyíll carry more speed than the 225 at longer ranges, which would help promote expansion.

    I wonít bother with the 160 though (frankly didnít know it existed) because I donít think itís needed for my pursuits here in Alaska. It could be a good long range setup for mule deer though. A little trade off with a BC of .342, but the speed would be around 3300.

    I initially chose the 225 for BB with the intention of making initial shots at 200 yards or less. If follow-up shots are needed for mine or others, I know the accuracy will get it done, but I acknowledge that the possibility of poorer expansion at 400+ may not be ideal. Primary purpose was to use a heavier and tough bullet at expected shooting ranges.

    Food-for-thought: A lot of brown bears reportedly taken over the years by 30-06ís shooting 180gr bullets, and the 338 will scoot a 185 at a much higher velocity which will hold together up close and should also expand/perform better at longer ranges.

    I really donít think you can go wrong with any of the choices. Iíve found the 225 performs well, and hereís a picture of the recovered bullet and animal taken.





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