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    Anyone down on the Kenai read todays front page?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justin View Post
    Anyone down on the Kenai read todays front page?

    Here's the link to ADN article...............

    http://www.adn.com/2011/07/18/197377...nai-river.html

    This article should bring lots of people down to the Kenai.

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    I thought you were talking about the Clarion. The caption said "Their plan to to smoke the fish and send it out as Christmas Presents." I though that it was for PERSONAL use. Doesn't that mean that you are not supposed to give it away. I know that everyobdy does it, but I don't think that you are supposed to.

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    Yep the Clarion. Thats exactly what I thought. Found it pretty funny when I read it. The commercial fisherman may not find it that way though? I thought it was PERSONAL use as well.

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    It WAS personal use. Now the wording has changes and you can give it away. Some prefer to look at it as personal abuse under the new regs.

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    That change doesn't sit well with me. On the other hand, I hate having regs/laws on the books that can't be enforced. When salmon comes out of the smoker or canner, there is no way to tell how it was caught. A portion of people that dipnet have abused the resource, and sadly will continue to abuse it. But as an optomist I'd like to think that the majority of the people use it as a way to provide wonderful food for their family.

    I know for our family dipnetting has always been a highlight of the summer, and I bet in the future when the kids are older and look back on growing up in Alaska, they'll remember dipnetting as one of the best times and a uniquely Alaskan experience. I hope they have the opportunity to dipnet with their own kids.
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    I guess we may as well let non-residents buy licenses to dip net if its legal to send PU fish outside that way at least we collect some revenue...... This dip net monster is not going away so we may as well let the friggn world have a piece of it. I think princess tours should include dip netting and fish processing in their cruise package





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    I didn't see that quote in the article provided. I'm sure that would raise some hackles, especially with those who stop short of their limit because they know just how much they need, and obviously with commercials. It's true folks have always shared it, but that has been in a neighborly way for the most part; a welcome to newcomers and a mercy to the unlucky. Most people would be ashamed to see it printed in the paper that they were packing up personal use fish to send who knows where.

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    Quote Originally Posted by calebsb View Post
    I didn't see that quote in the article provided.
    Here's a link to the Clarion article that contains that quote.

    http://peninsulaclarion.com/news/201...joy-record-run

    I bet those guys regret saying that. When did this change take place? I was unaware of it. I'm going to F&G sight and look it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sockeye Salm View Post
    Here's a link to the Clarion article that contains that quote.

    http://peninsulaclarion.com/news/201...joy-record-run

    I bet those guys regret saying that. When did this change take place? I was unaware of it. I'm going to F&G sight and look it up.
    The cover photo says it all!, These guys use their dip net to Christmas shop! LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO I gotta forward this gem through the proper channels...hilarious!





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    Quote Originally Posted by fullbush View Post
    The cover photo says it all!, These guys use their dip net to Christmas shop! LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO I gotta forward this gem through the proper channels...hilarious!
    I hope those folks they send the fish to enjoy chewing on sand. Yuck!!

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    They're both morons...Not only for saying that its christmas presents to send out, but for the fact that none of the tails are clipped as they are already cleaning them... and they go on to say "they try to use as much of the fish as possible".....
    Fish are still for immediate family, which could be in the lower 48 I guess...I am sure that 'immediate family' is the only ones getting salmon for christmas.
    I kinda hope Fish and Game pay these boys a visit...Even if they can't prove or ticket, it will drive the point home and they'll think twice before making such statements.

    Ya know after typing all of that, I have to say, I have been misquoted many many time by journalists. It is possible that is the case here, but I doubt it....

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    Will have to read up on the new wording. Good eye on the tails. I am pretty sure a trooper could hang out @ the moth & run out of ink & empty a ticket book on a Sat or Sunday easily. I do enjoy time down dippen w/ the family, wk days only. We live close so we only take what we can smoke or work on @ one time then go back a few days later. It does look a bit gritty. Maybe thats how you tell AK wild salmon from farm raised?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Derby06 View Post
    They're both morons...Not only for saying that its christmas presents to send out, but for the fact that none of the tails are clipped as they are already cleaning them... and they go on to say "they try to use as much of the fish as possible".....
    Fish are still for immediate family, which could be in the lower 48 I guess...I am sure that 'immediate family' is the only ones getting salmon for christmas.
    I kinda hope Fish and Game pay these boys a visit...Even if they can't prove or ticket, it will drive the point home and they'll think twice before making such statements.

    Ya know after typing all of that, I have to say, I have been misquoted many many time by journalists. It is possible that is the case here, but I doubt it....
    I don't think the regs say that you have to clip the tails before you clean them. The last thing I read, and maybe I am mis-remembering or it has changed, but I thought it was that they needed to be clipped "prior to leaving the fishing area," and I also seem to remember something about maybe before you "conceal them from plain view."

    So, that being said, if you don't coneceal them from plain view, and you clean them on the beach, there's no need to clip the tails.

    Again, I think that what you have to realize is what is the intent of the rule. It is my understanding that the clip rule is intended to keep people from catching a big mess of fish dipnetting and then selling them to the cannery to make a fast buck. The canneries aren't supposed to buy fish with clipped tails, and this is how they can differentiate. Again, just my understanding. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

    I also found the quote in the paper interesting and wonder if ADF&G will pay them a visit to help educate them on the proper use of their fish. Stay tuned!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDipper View Post
    I thought it was that they needed to be clipped "prior to leaving the fishing area," and I also seem to remember something about maybe before you "conceal them from plain view."
    Actually its:
    - record the # of fish on your permit before leaving the fishing area, and
    - clip the fins before they're concealed from view, like put into a lidded cooler

    And I think you're right about the clip-rule being to keep PU fish out of the cannery, and I know you're right when you say that if you fillet them on the spot, no clipping is EVER required.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fullbush View Post
    I think princess tours should include dip netting and fish processing in their cruise package
    ..or maybe a Princess tour called "deckhand for a day" pay $350 a day to bait hooks and feel like a real seattle cowboy!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fullbush View Post
    I think princess tours should include dip netting and fish processing in their cruise package
    Quote Originally Posted by dkwarthog View Post
    ..or maybe a Princess tour called "deckhand for a day" pay $350 a day to bait hooks and feel like a real seattle cowboy!!
    Better yet there could be the "Because me and my Family (and friends, and friends of friends, and strangers who are friends of strangers) neeeeeed 105 sockeye" Package.

    With it you get:

    An 85' Motorcoach that you are allowed to drive at no more than 40 MPH down the Seward Highway departing Angst-O'-Rage at 5:30 p.m. SHARP with an estimated ETA to the Beach being midnight. Of course behind that 85' Behemoth there will be a 4 place trailer complete with a 6x6, 2 meat wagons, a completed cedar built playground for the Kiddo's, and the right turn-signal will be inoperable.

    With the package you will also be provided with an onboard GPS unit that will instruct you when to decrease your speed to .0007 MPH in order to view the Sheep along Turnagain, the Madhouse at Bird Creek (Ask us about our Bird Creek Package as well, discounts available if you provide your own Pitbull and/or Nascar Hat), the cliffs before Girdwood, the lakes after Girdwood, the "Welcome to Kenai Peninsula" sign at the base of Turnagain Pass, the ground squirrel 1/2 way UP Turnagain Pass, the Magpie before the bathrooms in Turnagain Pass, The-- Well, you get the picture.

    Also included with this package: 4 dipnets, complete with gillnet, extended handle, and a free trial of Viagra to keep it up.

    Once you've arrived at the beach and netted your bounty, we will provide you with a sunlamp and a 10# bag of redi-mix to give your filet's that "authentic" dipnetter pelicle that is so sought after.

    While at the beach we encourage you to partake in other Dipnetter Rites of Passage, such as taking the provided 6x6 and seeing how much orange fencing you can take out at 60 MPH while charging across the dunes. And don't forget to mosey over to the backyard of one of the locals and cop a squat on their lawn, they LOVE that!! Lest we overlook that tried and true technique, imported all the way from the Valley of cruising along until you find a locked gate and pitching your (provided with a deposit) tent on the other side of it, oh-ho-ho, it don't get ANY better!!!

    When you've gone through the 15 cases of canned beer provided, please just follow the examples set, and discard them willy-nilly across the beachfront, no, seriously, every Fall the locals have a Tetanus Shot Drive in which they turn their children loose barefoot in the sand and see how fast they cut their feet to ribbons.

    As the weekend winds down, it will be time to get one last coating of sand on your filets before removing them from the heatlamp and heading over to Fed-Ex to get that resource shipped out of State, PRONTO!

    As you pack to leave, please take advantage of the incoming tide to drive down to the surf-line and test the acceleration of the Motorcoach.

    Once you have thoroughly buried it into the sand up to the frame, you will have qualified as a bona-fide "I've been here less than 5 years, but now I'm as Alaskan as the Rest of the Greater Anchorage/Mat-Su Valley Folks".

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    Hippie, that was awesome. Lmao
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    Too funny Hippie! rep sent.
    Too bad Half the valley is already here and doing at least 2 or 3 of these things already.
    AND now we have another catergory for Joats "How much dipnet fish did you take to the dump" thread.
    No I sent it to relatives as christmas presents.
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    Ha Ha..Good one Hippie! All in good fun. That goes to fullbush as well....

    Sorry hippie, I've apparently pegged my rep meter on your account.

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