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    Default I now have a couple cans of Hogdons SUPERPERFORMANCE powder, need to experiment

    Well I have two pounds, but hardly any data except for waht they print on the can......
    This should be interesting.

    I think I will try it in a 22-250 today....
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    The Hogdons web site also has a few specific loads for 300 WSM and a few others as I recall. Good luck.
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    Well that was UNIMPRESSIVE!!!

    I used a HOWA 22-250 stainless with a 24 inch barrel. This rifle has previously shot very good groups with H-380 and 52 grain match bullets. (less than half inch)

    With this new can of Superformance powder I went right to the max load listed by Hodgdon. 43.0 grains which is right up to the bottom of the neck. I used Remington once fired brass and Federal 210 primers.

    I used three bullet types today. Sierra 60 grain hollow point flat base. Hornady 55 grain soft point spitzer flat base and Remington 55 grain FMJ-BT . ALL loads had 43.0 grains of this new powder.

    I used a COL from previous loads that this rifle has liked in the past.

    60gr HP (col 2.380 in) Vel: 3,521- 3,499 - 3,590 - 3,521 - 3,560 - 3,546 - 3,511 - 3,547 - 3,535 fps (2 inch group)

    55gr SP (col 2.350 in) Vel: 3,493 - 3,544 - 3,589 - 3,549 - 3,516 (I inch group with a flyer out to 2 inch)

    55grfmj (col 2.370 in) Vel: 3,616 - 3,535 - 3,555 - 3,533 - 3,563 ( FOUR INCH GROUP )

    All cases had ringed primer strikes and sooty case necks. The bore was also pretty dirty.

    Hodgdon claims they obtained 3,700 fps with this same load.... I call B.S.
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    I got 3500 fps with the Barnes 130 grain ttsx in the 300 WSM. Found a load for 3130 fps for a 85 TSX in the 243 and a 20" barrel. These were the only ones I got so far that where noticeably faster than other powders.

    I initialy tried it with 180 E-Tips in the 300 WSM but found R-19 to be faster.

    As far as your groups since you switched powder it is not surprising to me your new O.A.L for accuracy may be different.

    I like to load a fast powder then adjust seating depth to find the accuracy I want.

    I found it to be a pretty dirty powder as well and have read that from others too.
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    I am not too excited about the crummy groups... Just the lack of zoom to match the hype.
    Have you tried RL-17 for your 300 WSM ?
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    I don't know anything about the SuperPerformance powder, but Hodgdon's other new "super" powder "Leverevolution" does deliver the goods in a 30-30: I get a good 150fps increase using it, over the next best powder. However, it too is dirtier-burning than most, leaving quite a bit of residue/soot in the barrel. You would think that being a new powder they would engineer it to burn cleaner...

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    Anyone try 35 Rem loads with LVR? On-line it shows the following:
    200 GR. HDY RN Hodgdon LVR .358" 2.510" 42.0 2040 25,600 CUP 45.0C 2235 31,200 CUP




    if it really does 2235 FPS that is a pretty good bump!

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    I have been playing with Superformance in a 7x57 and a 6.5x55 M-70. I still have a bunch more working up to do and time is limited this time of year. So far I have only worked up fairly dirty loads that are slower than H-4831 loads.

    So back to the 22-250

    I tried it again with new Winchester brass, WLR primers and a 60 grain Hornady V max, loaded to 2.350 col. They averaged 3,565 fps with the max listed load of 43.0 grains. 2.0 inch group.

    Then I tried a CCI-250 magnum primer, Win brass 43.0 grains of Superformance and a medium Lee Crimp just to see what would happen if I jacked up the pressure. Out of ten shots the low was 3,484 fps and the high was 3,547 fps. With a 1.07 inch group.

    Then I tried some 60 grain Sierra flat base hollow points and the same load of 43.0 grains, a CCI 250 and a COL of 2.475 inches, which is closer to my rifling.
    I ended up with 3,538 fps as an average and just under an inch for a group at 100.

    So the mag primers actually averaged slower than the non-crimped standard primers. ALTHOUGH, the mag primers did clean up the dirty necks.

    It could be that this rifle shoots slow. So just for comparison, (and chuckles) I loaded some 40 grain V-max bullets with 35.5 grains of RL-10x. New Win brass and CCI-200 primers, COL of 2.450.
    My average velocity with that load was 4,056 fps. and a 3/4 inch group at 100. That is about what the book claims it should be.
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