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    Smile Proper or most Preferred tackle setup for sockeye fishing.

    After spending last year, and fishing 2 times this year for sockeyes in the Kenai and Russian rivers, I've noticed all different types of setups being used. I'm referring to the different types of sinkers, split shot, rubber core, slinkys, 3 way swivel with the surgical tubing and pencil lead, and the banana shape trolling sinkers. I've also seen guys using real long leaders and some short. So my ?'s are, do some of the mentioned sinkers work better than others? Does a certain one prevent less fish being foul hooked and give a better presentation for a better hook up.
    In regards to the regs. I understand that the weight has to be 18" in front of the fly or hook. but what about the swivel placement does having the weight in front or behind work better. I've tried several different setups myself, but I can't say if one way has caught me more fish than another. I'm just trying to get a consensus of what you guys do, to better my chances and do it the right way.

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    I tried out the one ounce slinky sinkers on monday and never had any problems with the weights being caught in the rocks. I did snap off a few hooks though.
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    When I fish the Kenai I use pencil lead on a slider above the swivel and a 4-5 foot leader. If the water that I'm fishing is moving too slow and my pencil lead would only likely be 1/2-1" then I'll just switch splitshot. I heard about the long leader from some of the guys on this forum and I have always had better results with it.

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    I have had a lot of success on the Russian with my fly rod, a medium/heavy weight one. I use sinker line, and 30lb leader line tied about 3-4 feet long, with a nail knot. Depending on water movement/depth, I use a split shot or two, 18" above the fly (per the regs). I have caught many fish this way. Don't really fish the Kenai, but have caught them on the same set up but with a little heavier weight.
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    I like a sink tip and a 5 foot leader to just about any fly, of if you are spin fishing enough weight to get it down and then a 5-9 foot leader...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ak_powder_monkey View Post
    I like a sink tip and a 5 foot leader to just about any fly, of if you are spin fishing enough weight to get it down and then a 5-9 foot leader...
    An old timer said he doesn't use nail knots on his fly line when he is fishing the Russian. He says the reds are to strong for it and will snap the line. I told him I never had any issues with the leader snapping. He uses something like a fly line to leader cast connector. I have never used them. Here's a link from Bass Pro that has em': http://www.basspro.com/webapp/wcs/st...003000_175-3-2
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    Sure, why use a perfectly good knot when you can spend $3.49 plus postage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by power drifter View Post
    Sure, why use a perfectly good knot when you can spend $3.49 plus postage.
    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to power drifter again.

    If a nail knot will hold a King Salmon, I'd wager it could close the deal on a Sockeye.....
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    I wouldn't even try using a fly rod on a King. I have seen a few people try, but never asked if they were successful. I think the leader would just bite into the fly line with that much weight and power. Reds put up a good enough fight for me on my fly rod.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shoedawg View Post
    I wouldn't even try using a fly rod on a King. I have seen a few people try, but never asked if they were successful. I think the leader would just bite into the fly line with that much weight and power. Reds put up a good enough fight for me on my fly rod.

    Not only are flyrods successful for Kings....They're a hoot!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Shoedawg View Post
    I wouldn't even try using a fly rod on a King. I have seen a few people try, but never asked if they were successful. I think the leader would just bite into the fly line with that much weight and power. Reds put up a good enough fight for me on my fly rod.
    Standing shoulder to shoulder fishing kings with a fly rod is very hard,only because unlike the old days people won't reel in and let you drop on down. Now in a crowd people think you should fight the fish in the turf in front of you.With A 10 weight a good reel and a little room it's as much fun as you can have with your pants on.

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    Proper tackle for Reds? Check this out, http://forums.outdoorsdirectory.com/...ot-method-2011
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    Quote Originally Posted by power drifter View Post
    Standing shoulder to shoulder fishing kings with a fly rod is very hard,only because unlike the old days people won't reel in and let you drop on down. Now in a crowd people think you should fight the fish in the turf in front of you.With A 10 weight a good reel and a little room it's as much fun as you can have with your pants on.
    LOL!!! Ya thats why I try to avoid the crowds, but it aint easy. I still pull/reel in my line when someone has a fish on next to me. Its just proper etiquette and plus I don't want their fish tangling up my line forcing me to cut it and having to redo my lines which results in less fishing.
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    The best I do is simple and I have used it since 79. I am in a drift boat but use lighter gear since I am....6wt or 7wt.......same line I use for trouts....5 floating I think....swivel to my fly line....25lb mono leader to the other end of the swivel....5-8 feet of the 25lb mono....split shots...2-4 of them...I dont know the **** size I buy from sight...They are about the size of an 8mm bead so lets call them 8's. Coho fly....See red....Watch red bite....Set the hook
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    Thanks for the replies, I will give all of this suggestions a try. I haven't done any fly fishing but I bought a 9wt fly rod at the sportsmen show and I wanna give it a try this year. Last year was my first year ever fishing for reds, and I watch a guy last July on the Kenai by Soldotna catch 3 reds in 45 mins. He had a 1.5 oz banana shape sinker tied to the main line and about a 4ft leader with a hook and yarn. He would just lob it upstream then let drift down then lob it up again over an over until he hooked a fish. I watch and checked to to see that all the fish he caught weren't foul hooked either. So I fished that way for the season and caught my limits each time I went out.
    Like I mentioned I've seen all kinds of setups and different kinds of tackle used and they've all caught fish, so I geuss it don't really matter what a guy uses, just as long as he stays within the regulations and rules, and doesn't foul up anyone else. Tight Lines!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlaskaHippie View Post
    Not only are flyrods successful for Kings....They're a hoot!


    I'm headed out West to do just that (again)...I'll slap up some pics when I return...
    Cant wait to see them man. Maybe ill try getting a King with my fly rod and see what the j*** is all about. Tell you one thing, its hard not to use a fly rod over spinning rigs. Fishing with a fly rod is just so much fun.
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    What has worked good for me in the past with a fly rod for reds is a product called L E D and is made by larva lace.
    It is basically a flat narrow soft lead wrap several feet long. Wrap as much as you need on your fly line and it works great.
    unlike the small match stick variety of flexible lead this stuff is on a small spool so you can just use one continuous piece.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kasilofchrisn View Post
    What has worked good for me in the past with a fly rod for reds is a product called L E D and is made by larva lace.
    It is basically a flat narrow soft lead wrap several feet long. Wrap as much as you need on your fly line and it works great.
    unlike the small match stick variety of flexible lead this stuff is on a small spool so you can just use one continuous piece.
    http://www.sportsmanswarehouse.com/s...4846/cat101059

    Does it hold on the line well? How often does it slip?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shoedawg View Post
    Does it hold on the line well? How often does it slip?
    It holds pretty good when wrapped properly. I start with the tag end going up the line a little then wrap over it so there is no loose end on the fly side of things. the other end gets tucked into the last couple of wraps.
    I havent had it slip when wrapped this way but the end sometimes needs to be re-wrapped as it will come loose eventually. what's nice is it gives a slimmer profile than other types of lead and spreads the lead out over a little bit longer area instead of one little spot witch seems to work good for me.
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    Doesnt really matter what kind of weight you have on, as long as it taps the bottom and your rig stays down its fine. Reds come in by the slugs so if your all doing it right you'll start seeing hookups at a fast rate when fish are in. A few big split shots, bullet weights, bannana weight, lead wraps its all in what you wanna use. 18" up from the fly and your in good shape
    Now with the 'chuck n duck' its way more fun to use a fly rod over spinning rod(not to mention alot easier on you) So just stockup on some yarn, hooks, and weights its gonna be all good.
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